Biden Wants Your Family to be Nuked

2008-08-23T15:40:00.000-07:00

Let's stop the nonsense about Joe Biden being "strong on national security." He cares more about terrorists' feelings than your family's safety. He said so on MSNBC on September 26, 2007.

Biden said on live television that he would let a city be nuked before he'd use torture on a known terrorist who admits to planting a soon-to-detonated suitcase nuke in an American city.

In fact, both Biden and Obama would rather have you and your family obliterated into fragments over running the risk of harming a known terrorist. Shocking, but absolutely true -- watch the debate rebroadcast or read the transcript excerpt below.

Of course, Biden noted that he would offer the terrorist a "presidential pardon" if that would help. It would probably go something like this: "Please, Mister Terrorist, if I give you this piece of paper with my signature on it, will you please find it in your heart to love Americans even though you've spent your entire life hating us? Pretty please?"

And then millions of Americans would go up in smoke.

Biden also noted that he would pardon the terrorist, but not the person torturing the terrorist.

HERE IS THE TRANSCRIPT:

TIM RUSSERT: I want to move to another subject, and this involves a comment that a guest on “Meet the Press” made, and I want to read it, as follows: “Imagine the following scenario. We get lucky. We get the number three guy in Al Qaida. We know there’s a big bomb going off in America in three days and we know this guy knows where it is.

Don’t we have the right and responsibility to beat it out of him? You could set up a law where the president could make a finding or could guarantee a pardon [to the person who did the torturing].

Obama—would you do that as president?

OBAMA: America cannot sanction torture. It’s a very straightforward principle, and one that we should abide by. Now, I will do whatever it takes to keep America safe. And there are going to be all sorts of hypotheticals and emergency situations and I will make that judgment at that time.

But what we cannot do is have the president of the United States state, as a matter of policy, that there is a loophole or an exception where we would sanction torture. I think that diminishes us and it sends the wrong message to the world.

RUSSERT: Senator Biden, would you allow this presidential exception?

BIDEN: No, I would not. And I met, up here in New Hampshire, with 17 three- and four-star generals who, after my making a speech at Drake Law School, pointing out I would not under any circumstances sanction torture, I thought they were about to read me the riot act. Seventeen of our four-star, three-star generals said, “Biden, will you make a commitment you will never use torture?” It does not work.

It is part of the reason why we got the faulty information on Iraq in the first place is because it was engaged in by one person who gave whatever answer they thought they were going to give in order to stop being tortured. It doesn’t work. It should be no part of our policy ever—ever.

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BIDEN: Question, Tim, did you say pardon, as well? I’d pardon the son of a gun, if I got an atom bomb.

RUSSERT: That was—that was the scenario that President Clinton laid out [in a hypothetical during an earlier interview with the former president].

BIDEN: OK. Well, I would pardon -- I would not torture, but if I thought I’d get the hydrogen bomb this guy had planted, I’d say, “Man, you’re out.” And then I’d figure out how he got taken care of later. But I would...

(LAUGHTER)

... I would pardon him.

RUSSERT: So you would be in favor of...

BIDEN: I’d pardon him, not torture. Not torture.

RUSSERT: No. It would be pardoning the person who...

BIDEN: Oh, did the torture. No, no, no.

RUSSERT: Fair enough. All right.

Full transcript is available at: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21013767/

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